16 April 2007

Like fish in a barrel

From Neal Boortz' website

Earlier this year the Virginia General Assembly failed to act on House Bill 1572. This bill would have allowed college students and employees to carry handguns on campus --- with appropriate permits, of course. It died in subcommittee. Larry Hincker, a spokesman for Virginia Tech, the site of today's carnage, said "I'm sure the university community is appreciative of the General Assembly's actions because this will help parents, students, faculty and visitors feel safe on our campus."

Mr. Hincker, you are a M-O-R-O-N

I think Neal Boortz's viewpoint on the tragic shootings at Virginia Tech defines the problem.


Ramblin' Ed said...

I thought the same thing. If you had a homocide that appeared to be both domestic in nature and over and done with, why in the world would there be an expectation of locking down the entire campus? Girlfriend dumps boyfriend, boyfriend shoots girlfriend, boyfriend runs off. It happens. Coming back later for a good old fashioned bloodbath, well, that was unexpected. Fire the faculty and blame the police? Why?

Could aremed students have prevented some of the deaths? Perhaps. Had they been carrying at the moment, had they been in the immediate area, and had they had the opportunity. But that's a lot of "ifs".

I'm all in favor of guns and I like shooting. But I am also pro-cooking. My point? I have no problem with cooking and I like to eat. But I don't think you should be able to cook just any old thing any old where just because you want to and it's legal. Sure, you could note that poor people ride the bus and by breaking out the hibachi on the evening commute and grilling burgers in the aisle you just may save one poor people from being hungry. Still, it isn't a great idea overall.

I don't think campuses are a great place to be packing heat, sorry. Brains are still being formed. Impulses still exert undue influences on actions. Alcohol is consumed in copious amounts and in imprudent fashion. Etc., etc., etc.

That's me, though.

a.g.t. said...

Well, good points, Rambl'n Ed, and being you and everyone else being themselves is what makes for such an interesting world. :-)

It's true that some folks aren't really mature enough to pack heat just like some 16 & 17 yr olds really shouldn't be behind the wheel of an automobile, even if they are legally licensed to do so.

But the legislatures (the people) have to establish some sort of across-the-board criteria for licensing folks, whether operate an automobile or carry concealed or sell insurance. Some benchmark must be met. And once the citizen meets that legislative-established-criteria then that individual, if so inclined, should be able to pack heat, sell insurance, or drive or all of the above. Whether their mind is still forming or not doesn't matter - they've met the people's criteria.

Also, schools that declare themselves gun-free zones simply invite the wackos to come in and do mayhem. The wacko knows that other than perhaps stumbling onto a cop, he's home free. His victims have been disarmed by the authorities. The students are then the proverbial fish in a barrel.

I don't think habachi cooking on the bus is mentioned in the Constitution or any Amendments - I could be wrong. But the thing about the right to bear arms is. And even us gun nuts concede that there are some limits to that, but only a few. :-)

I'm not sure, but I don't think Vermont has too many school shootings. I could be wrong, but I don't think they have a history of such a thing AND they have NO gun control whatsoever. If you're not a felon, you can carry concealed. No license, no nothing.

I'm a firm believer in "An armed society is a polite society".

a.g.t. said...

I was wrong. There have been school shootings in VT, but I would bet the schools are "No Gun Zones"

Ramblin' Ed said...

See, that's why I like you. We don't agree and we agree to that.

How many times have I said that? I'm not so interested in making you accept my views as I am in the fact the we should be able to express them. And then, like we have, realize we don't see things the same and move on.


Appalachian Gun Trash said...

Exactly, we would more than likely agree on more things than disagree so there's no need to dwell on 'em and just agree to disagree - or sumtin' like that.

That's like the step-son who is HARDCORE Democrat and would never vote anything but and me you could count on one finger how many times I've voted Democrat and doubt that will ever change. But, we've agreed that won't keep us from respecting each other and doing familial things together. We just don't discuss politics.

Even though he's on the wrong side!